[wellylug] RE: Linux Clinic for Schools

Lindsay Hunter klhunter at paradise.net.nz
Thu May 16 09:24:46 NZST 2002


Yes.  I fully support us being albel to demonstrate to ourselves we could do
it before offering to help a business such as a school.  And we should
conisider this as good business, because as has been suggested in the
Auckland LUG that a 'free' seems to have no value!  Does anyone see a
conflict in that?


Lindsay

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Klenner, Colin [mailto:colin.klenner at eds.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 16 May, 2002 08:11
> To: 'wellylug at yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: [wellylug] RE: Linux Clinic for Schools
>
>
> I agree with the concept.
>
> However I think we should be more organized than we are at present. for
> instance we should
> 1. Decide the model to be used for the network (integration of non-Linux
> networks etc)
> 2. Decide which distribution we would use
> 3. Consider what security should be used, and how that should be enforced.
>
> When that little bit is worked out we should have a workfest first and
> ensure we all know what we are doing so we do not look like a
> pack of dorks
> on the day. work out a standard approach and install path, troubleshooting
> techniques.
>
> We need a person who can approach a school and generate interest.
> Offer the
> usual incentive (lower licence costs, more secure system that can be
> hardened against students, and so on).
>
> Having said all that I think it a great way to start generating community
> interest.
>
> Colin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lindsay Hunter [mailto:klhunter at paradise.net.nz]
> Sent: Thursday, 16 May 2002 6:44
> To: Wellylug
> Subject: [wellylug] FW: [K12OSN] Re: [seul-edu] Linux Clinic this
> Saturday
>
>
>
> This is in  Portland, Oregon but it seems an interesting model for us to
> consider.  It would be useful to tackle the hands on installation
> processes
> in a group, and than second time around invite schools to participate, and
> to hold it in a school?  It would take some organising.
>
> Lindsay
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: k12osn-admin at redhat.com [mailto:k12osn-admin at redhat.com]On Behalf
> Of Doug Loss
> Sent: Thursday, 16 May, 2002 00:05
> To: seul-edu at seul.org
> Cc: k12osn at redhat.com; macep at lclark.edu; strut; OSN; plug; schoolforge
> Subject: [K12OSN] Re: [seul-edu] Linux Clinic this Saturday
>
>
> Paul Nelson wrote:
>
> > I'm sending out our usual announcement for our monthly Linux Clinic. I'm
> > also posting to a wider audience in hopes of sharing a bit of how our
> > local user group has helped us.
> >
> > Our school plays host to the clinic every month on the 3rd. Saturday. We
> > invite Linux experts from the PLUG (Portland Linux/Unix User Group) to
> > come and help with software installs and configurations for local
> > schools, teachers, kids and the public at large.
> > http://www.riverdale.k12.or.us/~danh
> >
> > [snip]
>
> > Let me think about this for just a minute, do I want Linux experts to
> > come to my school every month to help me use free, stable software to
> > provide cool technologies for my students? They won't charge me anything
> > and they enjoy providing support for our schools through our local
> > listserv on a 24x7 basis...  Duh... It doesn't take much to realize how
> > well this works! It's fun for the experts too though!
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > If you're a school and you want to take your first steps this would be a
> > good time to come by. This Saturday we have a special going... We'll
> > configure your hardware to be an Appleshare server and toss in a web
> > server for free! ;-^)
> >
> > My hope is that other LUGs out there would start hosting clinics. If you
> > are from a school, contact your local user group and offer to host a
> > clinic!
>
> Paul,
>
>    This addresses something SEUL/edu has talked about for over a year
> (although we haven't had the resources to do anything about it).  I hope
> that through Schoolforge we can bring enough people and energy to bear to
> develop this further.
>
>    What I'm talking about is support materials for LUGs that want
> to do for
> their local schools what PLUG is doing for the Portland schools.
> Obviously,
> they will have some preliminary work to do to get into their
> schools in the
> first place; you had already done that bit.  But if we can develop useful
> procedures for them to follow in contacting and communicating with the
> school administrations and suggested ways in which they can help
> the schools
> with their Linux installations, I think we can make Linux seem more like a
> community-supported solution to a problem rather than a risky, eccentric
> change to the standard operating procedure that it probably like to many
> non-technical educators.
>
>    Could you possibly collect, or ask someone else to collect,
> the materials
> you use for your LUG/school interactions?  We may be able to use them as
> templates for developing material useful to a wide range of circumstances.
> Thanks!
>
> --
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