[wellylug] fluxbox-0.9.x (was Ubuntu)

[Ian Sterling]

> I quite liked them actually because they were always a constant width. The

I never thought about it that way.  See, when I started playing with
fluxbox, I'd had the tab mentality of BeOS and PWM - where the tab IS
the titlebar.  Dockable frames was the reason I started using PWM in
the first place.  To see tabs //in addition// to the titlebars seemed
not only excessive and unnecessary, but a severe waste of space for
those of us with smaller monitors (laptop's only 800x600).  But your
argument is definitely valid.  *ponders*  You //can// use external
tabs with 0.9.x, IIRC, but I haven't looked into this.

> the mouse. Same thing happens with the icon bar at the bottom. However
> this did lead me to set up an extremely usable set of keyboard shortcuts
> for window navigation - I do admit 0.9.x does that very well.

Mmmmm, keybindings!  *yum*

> I don't know about PekWM but I agree with the stability - I haven't had
> fluxbox version-anything crash on me in months.

Yeah, the stable version of PekWM works quite nicely, and doesn't
crash.  But the CVS version - while it has nice features and whatnot -
is extremely buggy.  I do like their implimentation of chained
keybindings MUCH better though.  It's considerably more elegant. 
Instead of holding down the meta keys for each key in the sequence,
you only need it for the first, and that leaves the fingers free for
the rest.  Much nicer way to do it if you ask me.

> My only outstanding problems with fluxbox-0.9.10 are broken support for
> pagers (WM_STATE broken, fixed in CVS, waiting for 0.9.11) and
> broken-by-design window movement policy where (try it and see) you have to
> make sure your mouse is completely motionless before trying to click on an
> inactive tab otherwise you end up inadvertently dragging a window
> elsewhere.  Keyboard shortcuts to the rescue with this one too.

My biggest problem is that my themes which worked nicely under 0.9.9
have issues under 0.9.10.  That and I have issues with the workspace
name box becoming transparent or the clock disappearing... I'm sure
that's just a theme issue though.  I'll work on it eventually. ;)

> I'm not impressed with the anti-aliased menu - useless gimmick AFAIAC.
> Scripting (a la Kahakai) would be nice but I can do most if not all via
> external scripts anyway.

See, I like the AA menu.  It goes nicely with the titlebars and all
that.  I like having the same font for everything.  Coincidentally,
that font is Bitstream Vera Sans-8.  (Just thought you'd like to know)
;)

--Ian...