[wellylug] Knoppix

[Daniel]

Hi all,

Does anyone know where there is a local mirror of knoppix?

Daniel

One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown
    is the belief that one's work is terribly important.

   Bertrand Russell
       --The Autobiography of Bertrand Russell



Eugene Van Wyk wrote:
> Hi Brent
> 
> Accepted.  I can understand all that.  But maybe this should be said a
> little louder then.  For Joe Soap that sees this distro and decides to
> give it a bash, may be the only time Mandrake has a chance to get
> another client, and if MDK10 was my first contact with Linux, I would
> certainly have given up by now.  I know it has performed flawlessly for
> some, but I have had issues on every platform I've tried.
> 
> To date my best consistent MDK experience has been with Mandrake8.
> Second on the list has been the disk based install for Knoppix.  Besides
> Red Hat, I have not played with any other distro's.
> 
> BTW, do you remember the command to do a disk install of Knoppix.  I
> have another P1 machine that I would like to give the Knoppix treatment?
> 
> Eugene van Wyk
> Test Development Engineer
> 4RF Communications Ltd
> 26 Glover St
> Ngauranga
> Wellington
> New  Zealand
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wellylug-admin at lists.wellylug.org.nz
> [mailto:wellylug-admin at lists.wellylug.org.nz] On Behalf Of Wood Brent
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:41 a.m.
> To: wellylug at lists.wellylug.org.nz
> Subject: RE: [wellylug] I blew it - lost a convert
> 
> 
> --- Eugene Van Wyk <Eugene.VanWyk at 4rf.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>I agree with MDK10 hassles.  I am still struggling on since I've had
>>Mandrake8, 9 and now 10 Each new program install is a major fight, and
> 
> I
> 
>>still can't get OOo1.1.2 to run from the menu.  (MDK8 or 10)  I've
> 
> also
> 
>>had regular issues with X just going sad, and the machine sitting
> 
> there
> 
>>with a black screen. 
> 
> 
> I think there needs to be some clarification about Linux (esp Mandrake)
> and
> hardware support, graphics in particular. (This is just how I see it- in
> a very
> general sense. Flames to /dev/null, criticisms are fine :-) 
> 
> 
> 
> The freely downloadable version of Mandrake has NO proprietary software.
> So can
> be freely copied, given away without restriction. So it does not have
> the ATi
> or Nvidia drivers, because their licensing is not considered free &
> open.
> 
> Same for some other hardware, including some modem & LAN drivers.
> 
> If you purchase the Professional version of Mandrake, as a commercial
> product
> the contents do NOT all have to be free & open. I can't speak for the
> ATi cards
> from personal experience, but I know that I have NEVER had any problems
> with
> ANY  hardware, from graphics, LAN, modems, sound, TV cards, etc when
> using the
> commercial version of Mandrake. eg: it correctly identified an on board
> MX440
> graphics, BT TV card, etc. Correctly installed the proprietary 3D Nvidia
> drivers, video4linux, etc, set up my Windows partition in LILO to boot
> properly.
> 
> This is pretty typical IN MY EXPERIENCE!!! (Yours may well vary)
> 
> So, the Mandrake "Community Edition" does not have all the bells &
> whistles. As
> long as some hardware requires proprietary drivers, it is unlikely yhat
> any
> free release of Linux will ever avoid such problems. The Community
> Edition is
> so called because it is NOT intended as the total solution for everyone,
> but is
> more for the Linux & Mandrake community to play with. I believe it does
> a
> pretty good job overall.
> 
> Please don't expect any free & Open Source software to have full support
> for
> all hardware when the hardware developers & manufacturers do not release
> open
> source drivers. 
> 
> If this is a problem, then get the commercial version & I'm pretty sure
> most if
> not all such problems will be avoided. 
> 
> FYI, the 10 CD Mandrake 10 distro that Damon put together & may still be
> around
> has many packages not included on the normal Mandrake 10 version. You
> may find
> that this solves some problems as well.
> 
> 
> 
> I would also note that in my experience, "name brand" systems, like
> Dell, IBM,
> Compaq, Packard Smell/NEC, .... do have a habit of believing they know
> better
> than everyone else & sometimes do things in a slightly different way. So
> generic memory won't work, etc.... They are also more prone to having
> generic
> software not work as seamlessly as well. A good locally assembled system
> made
> of standard components is (IMHO) less likely to have niggles with Linux
> than
> systems from the big companies...
> 
> (But I guess, as always, your experiences may differ :-) 
> 
> 
> 
> A final comment, at the last reckoning, before Xorg, the Xfree86 project
> was
> larger than the Linux kernel project. Problems with X tend to be
> considered as
> problems with Linux, but this is not actually the case. They are two
> separate
> packages which are generally packaged together by distro producers. If
> you get
> a text prompt, your Linux is probably fine. Not that that is much
> consolation
> :-)
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
>    Brent
> 
> 
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