[wellylug] MicrosoftNZ at WellyLUG?

Bret Comstock Waldow bwaldow at alum.mit.edu
Mon Jul 11 18:51:20 NZST 2005


On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 14:50, Cliff Pratt wrote:

> Any Unix "elegance" would be totally hidden by whatever GUI
> he uses. But then again, many parts of Unix are far from
> elegant. The underpinnings of X for example are far from
> elegant.

X isn't Unix, just like Oracle isn't Unix.  X is a server application, like 
Apache, which can run on Unix, or Windows, or DOS (I still have disks to 
install Desqview's X server).

Tricky question.  Is a badly (or inelegantly) implemented application an 
illustration of a badly implemented OS, or...?

Bash isn't Unix either (I run it on Windows via Cygwin's implementation).  But 
DOS is an OS.

You can run X on Windows via Cygwin, too.

I would say the elegance of Unix is it's effective security architecture, it's 
multi-user right-from-scratch architecture, and it's philosophy of, and 
actual implemented support for, stringing processes together to get work done 
without writing a new GUI tool for every little thing.

It's all applications after that.

Cheers,
Bret

-- 
Given the degree to which Americans distrust politicians, it boggles the mind 
that religious leaders would consign themselves to that particular circle of 
hell.
- Alan Wolfe
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