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<font face="Arial">Gerald, I recently installed Kubuntu 6.10 on a
friends 4 year old home PC and works really well. I've been quite
taken with the way the K(U)buntu system just "works" so i fully
understand where your coming from. I was like you and hated the idea
of not having root login access to the xserver but have since got over
that. I'm a keen KDE fan so I can only talk about Kubuntu in any depth
(I'm sure Gnome has similar apps available though) but what I did to
get around the root access problem was installed Automatix2 ("easy
ubuntu" in gnome?) which eases the installation of all the commonly
needed apps - firefox, thunderbird, java etc. Also installed
"Krusader" which is a root access file directories browser. You can
launch a terminal from this app also so you have full root access at
command line without the need for "sudo". You can re-jig the system to
get root access login but I wouldn't reccommend it as it just "breaks"
your setup as I discovered.<br>
<br>
ps - sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will give you the option of
logging in with Kubuntu on your Ubuntu system.<br>
<br>
Rob Collins<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Gerald.Roehrbein@oraforecast.com">Gerald.Roehrbein@oraforecast.com</a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hello,
I've never seen such a huge fan community of Debian or UBUNTU like here.
The SuSE system of my 15 year old daughter was just an old one. 8.2 or
something like that running a lot of years without any problems.
After a lot of discussions about "never change a running system" she
agreed to install UBUNTU. I started yesterday in the evening with this
task. The only acceptable reason for me was that I could not install and
configure WINE for running the math software Derive at this system.
First of all I made a backup of the whole system. Just plug in a USB
drive. Booted form cd. Mounted the boot drive and the USB drive and than
dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sda bs=1024 and since I'm a little bit paranoid I
tar'ed the /home and copied it to the file server. She would kill me if
she will miss any file.
Today I begun at 10:00am with the installation and configuration. The
installation was just simple. Only a few questions but only a few
options to configure. After roundabout 50 minutes the system was up and
running. Just fine.
I tried to configure Evolution as usual. No problem with that.
To restore the data from the tar I needed an SSHD daemon. Installation
was just simple (sudo apt-get install openssh-server openssh-client).
But: I hate that there is no root account active and I always have to
sudo. I'm not sure about changing this. It looks like a well thought
security feature. Because anybody knows there is a "root" user at a UNIX
system but do you know the name of the superuser of an UBUNTU system?
Okay this look like security by obscurity. But probably it helps!
After this I've started an update of UBUNTU Dapper. This worked fine.
The next step was testing FireFox. Everything fine with that except the
JRE.
I got it from the plugin installation screen FireFox pointed to. First I
installed jre1.5.0_09. I linked the libjavaplugin_oji.so as usual to
the correct directories. The result was interesting: No more warnings
that there is a plugin required but no working JAVA applets. After this
I've downloaded FireFox 2.0 and installed it just
under /home/<user>/tmp/firefox and linked the plugin to the valid
directory.
I got an error with a missed shared library. I installed it with apt-get
( sudo apt-get install libstdc++5) and FireFox 2.0 started but with
same result as 1.5.0.6.
Than I downloaded from the SUN website the j2re1.4.2_13 and tried this
one. If I started FireFox it crashed. Remark: If you want to see the
reason just start FireFox from the command line. Than I took the JRE
from my Notebook. It's jre1.5.0_06. After linking the
libjavaplugin_oji.so everything worked fine. This jre works with FireFox
1.5.0.8 and FireFox 2.0 very well!
It took hours to fix this problem. After this I replaced all the links
and directories with the correct one and everything worked fine.
My daughter love her "new" ICQ client "Gaim internet messanger". She
said this ICQ client look very well.
Without this list I've never had given UBUNTU a chance. Up to now it
works. The animation at my homepage is now executed in slow motion.
Probably the driver of the graphics adapter is bad.
UBUNTU seems to be very professional. FireFox should offer a better JRE
installation method! ;-)
kind regards
Gerald
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