There is the issue of 700megs (broadband) as against 10 or so (can be
done on dialup), and if you have more than one machine and tend to
share stuff around you have the problem of having to use a cd which
means backing up and recovering the machine afterwards.<br>
For my circumstances doing major upgrades more than once a year is
pretty tricky and for the people I help (including me) they might put
up with me trying to get new or upgraded applications into their
machines but not a 6 monthly remake.<br>
I have been telling people that 6.06 is a very good stable OS and they
can update the rest as the mood takes them because the repository will
stay up to date. It doesn't.<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 5/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Rob Collins</b> <<a href="mailto:robcollins55@aim.com">robcollins55@aim.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<font face="Arial">I've got very limited knowledge of the inner
workings of (k)ubuntu but wasn't at all keen to upgrade from Edgy to
Feisty after a fiasco I had trying to upgrade from Dapper to Edgy.
That was until upgrading to Feisty happened almost accidentally after I
enabled a repository for something else. Up popped a GUI upgrading
tool out of nowhere and I have to be honest with you, upgrading was as
easy as falling off a log, no knowledge of Linux required - and that's
coming from a sceptic!"<br>
<br>
If it's that easy these days, why not just keep up with the latest
version of the OS if you want the latest of the programs running on it?<br>
<br>
Rob<br>
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<a href="mailto:jeffhunt90@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jeffhunt90@gmail.com</a> wrote:
<blockquote cite="http://midb2e52c960705211502h4db2662bi8897e1a47b6a200@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"><div><span class="e" id="q_112b0c84c6b022f8_1">I thought I was a pretty conservative bloke, but you folks
are making me feel positively innovative. I gave up on Edgy because its
dialup was shonky and I gave up on Feisty because I couldn't get it
into anything - (I think that was hardware faults, but it wasn't worth
the effort).
<br>
Under the impression that I was supposed to be keeping up to date I
have been getting new software whenever I felt the need and installing
it, usually off a binary.<br>
Apart from destroying hundreds of hours of family genealogy when I
upgraded Gramps ( its ok I recovered on another machine) I have never
had a problem. Yesterday I wasted hours finding a shell script to do
the deed of getting Firefox updated so I could view SVG graphics. It
now works.
<br>
If I can do these things with greater than 95% success rate, surely
someone with access to source code and inside knowledge can compile
something like Firefox, check it doesn't transgress and put it into the
Ubuntu 6.06 repository.<br>
<br>
I do feel that the 'big two' Firefox and Open Office should be being
updated even if there has to be a new category called somehting like
'stable we think' (a bit stable?) (not too unstable?)
<br>
Cheers.<br>
<br>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 5/22/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jethro Carr</b> <<a href="mailto:jethro.carr@jethrocarr.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jethro.carr@jethrocarr.com
</a>>
wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">On
Tue, 2007-05-22 at 09:06 +1200, Pete Black wrote:<br>
> Its better to simply understand this, than to be given a bunch of<br>
> alternatives like 'maintain newer versions of packages by compiling<br>
> yourself', which very few people really enjoy doing. Basically, if
<br>
> you like Ubuntu, but want new software, and aren't prepared to futz<br>
> around with apt.conf entries, then upgrade to the newer releases<br>
> regularly. This might potentially (though it seems to be less
likely
<br>
> with each release - update quality is improving noticeably) break<br>
> your system, but if you're going to be using Ubuntu long term, its<br>
> best to wrestle with the beast and get somewhat comfortable with
this
<br>
> process. LTS is not a good option unless you want to use the
packages<br>
> delivered with the release long term.<br>
<br>
I would state that many users actually want to use their computers long<br>
term! :-)<br>
<br>
Even I don't upgrade every 6 months, because if I have all the features<br>
I need, why upgrade?<br>
<br>
If you want the latest and greatest of everything, then sure, go and<br>
upgrade. But Ubuntu LTS is an excellent choice for users wanting a
<br>
stable system that they don't need to upgrade for a few years.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Jethro Carr<br>
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