<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">It's cool that we have people gathering on facebook! no doubt the whole facebook-nofacebook is not really important, I can lurk on facebook if the group is public.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">It's complicated, because while facebook is where the people is, we also have the fact that facebook is the antichrist of the freedoms linux vouches for. :P<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The meetings need not be physical! we could telecommute to the meetings. I think it was you that suggested a irc get togheter? sounds good to me. <br>
</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/3/17 Jeff Hunt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jeffhunt90@gmail.com" target="_blank">jeffhunt90@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Good thought Pedro. An initial focus on developing a website or group<br>
page would be a great way to involve members' ideas teach and learn<br>
Linux skills and involve ourselves in outreach that could then be<br>
extended to advertising and involving wider non-technical users.<br>
<br>
I have years of involvement in websites, especially <a href="http://humanist.org.nz" target="_blank">humanist.org.nz</a><br>
but my personal problem is that I get up at 5am as a semi-retired<br>
individual who drives commuter buses early in the morning and I<br>
haven't the energy for evening meetings.<br>
<br>
How do people feel about a communications update, even if it is just a<br>
shift to Facebook. After all, the geeks can lower themselves to look<br>
at it briefly and everyone else is already there?!?<br>
<br>
At least we should be able to advertise the most active of the IRCs (I<br>
didn't know we had one) on the website and give a specific time to<br>
chat and get together. Does everyone have other things to do at<br>
easter? I could offer my home for beer and biccies in one of the<br>
afternoons of easter when there is time and people are relaxed.<br>
<br>
We need leadership. Someone prepared to say we will attempt to do<br>
(..this..) at (...this...place and time...)<br>
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On 16/03/2013, Pedro Worcel <<a href="mailto:pedro@worcel.com">pedro@worcel.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Ooops, turns out we have. Joined it too.<br>
><br>
><br>
> 2013/3/16 Pedro Worcel <<a href="mailto:pedro@worcel.com">pedro@worcel.com</a>><br>
><br>
>> I think I read we need to make a new version of the website somewhere?<br>
>><br>
>> Getting together to think -> plan -> build something like that might be<br>
>> good :)<br>
>><br>
>> Regarding the IRC, there's seven people now at wellilug@sitharus. Do we<br>
>> have a freenode chan too?<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers!<br>
>> Pedro<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> 2013/3/16 Jeff Hunt <<a href="mailto:jeffhunt90@gmail.com">jeffhunt90@gmail.com</a>><br>
>><br>
>>> There is a risk for a small group to try to be everything to everyone.<br>
>>> It may result in being nothing to noone. I have received a lot of<br>
>>> benefit from this mail group. Long may it continue. I would like to<br>
>>> try an irc get-together if there was an active one.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Regarding meetings, I feel that technical gatherings appeal to a very<br>
>>> few specialists in that area and are not going to achieve critical<br>
>>> mass to keep going.<br>
>>> I have a attended a few meetings over the years, and as a<br>
>>> comparatively non-technical and not very social being I felt rather<br>
>>> excluded and slunk away feeling that I had let the group down, and<br>
>>> that they had let me down. If there is to be public meetings they need<br>
>>> to have someone who jumps up to welcome people in and offers tea and<br>
>>> biccies and finds out why the person is there and what they expect<br>
>>> from the group.<br>
>>><br>
>>> It botheres me a lot that there must be hundreds, if not thousands of<br>
>>> people in the<br>
>>> Greater Wellington Area who would use Linux (probably Ubuntu) if they<br>
>>> were introduced to it, given encouragement and had the feeling that<br>
>>> someone would give them kind non-judgemental encouragement if things<br>
>>> falter. I might be wrong but I think it is possible that there is a<br>
>>> huge untapped 'market'.<br>
>>><br>
>>> None of this takes things forward. It's just my thoughts.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 16/03/2013, Adam Bogacki <<a href="mailto:adam.bogacki@clear.net.nz">adam.bogacki@clear.net.nz</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> > We are living in constantly changing labour markets and<br>
>>> > in this day and age there are many ways to communicate<br>
>>> > and support each other, when necessary, through different media.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > An irc channel<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > [# wellylug at <a href="http://irc.sitharus.com" target="_blank">irc.sitharus.com</a><br>
>>> > or<br>
>>> > ##wellylug on <a href="http://irc.freenode.net" target="_blank">irc.freenode.net</a>]<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > is cost efficient for many and independent of the tyrannies of time or<br>
>>> > distance,<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > while others might wish to meet socially over some brewed or fermented<br>
>>> > refreshment.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > I was at a Wellylug meeting at 'silverstripe' when a polite gentleman<br>
>>> > came in and<br>
>>> > sat down introducing himself as Linus Torvalds. I think he was<br>
>>> > visiting<br>
>>> > them and<br>
>>> > had heard of the WellyLug meeting.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > I probably made a dick of myself refusing to believe it was him, but<br>
>>> such<br>
>>> > accidental encounters which make social life interesting are seldom<br>
>>> > found online.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > In short, I'd argue for flexibility ..<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Cheers.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
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