<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
</head>
<body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<p>I couldn'tve said it better myself, Jamie.</p>
<p>I'm a long time WellyLUG Lurker (originally from Auckland, though
I am back in Wellington again as of a couple of years ago) and I
also administer the NZLUG Group, and founded the Auckland LUG
(still have admin there too).<br>
</p>
<p>I've been having similar philosophical thoughts about the future
of NZLUG - as a New Zealand wide discussion group it has become
very, very quiet of late - I think Linux has moved from the
fringe, and much closer to the mainstream... online forums and
more effective online search tools have made a lot of the
'technical support' aspects of Mailing lists onto other things,
email falling out of favour in some respects...</p>
<p>It's hard work to be the 'core' of a group like this, organise
events with speakers, venues, and generally be accountable for
making sure it happens... these groups are only as successful as
their volunteers make them and Hugh deserves a lot of kudos for
his hard work over the last several years.</p>
<p>I too am glad to see the Wossat group taking up the mantle and
would love to see the ongoing collaboration and interaction
between related interest groups continue. In particular, though
Linux is now far more mainstream than it used to be, we need to
ensure that people remain aware of its capabilities, remain
interested in its use... that Linux and Open Source remain in
people's consciousness and continue to be considered as viable
options, components of a larger world which needs to remember the
need for open standards and universal interoperability. We still
need people to be interested in, passionate about, Linux, in order
to continue to develop professional skills in it!</p>
<p>Thanks again to all of those who've made WellyLUG what it has
been over the years.<br>
</p>
<p>In a practical sense, will the mailing list remain? <br>
</p>
<p>Cheers all,<br>
Mark.<br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27/04/18 23:52, Jamie Baddeley
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CACYu5br+bY0EXGoAmiRfqEqxXvmC9vcLgY7cr4MdvW9dB93z8w@mail.gmail.com">
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div>Hi,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I'd just like to say hello to Wellylug people at this
juncture.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I was involved in the Lug in the early mid/2000's. I
think Jethro was like 14 or 15 but he was doing website
stuff and demonstrating early young cleverness with Linux.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I helped along Wellylug with Brent at NIWA (you still
there Brent?) and a few others at some Linux InstallFests
(remember them?) at some outfit in Lower Hutt I can't
recall. We even had the Evening Post do a story on this
thing called Leenucks. Helped run some wellylug meetings
for a bit. Helped make the website and helped craft the
Mailing AUP. Keeping the lug humming etc. Buggered about
with the Wellylug Logo using Gimp (something version 0.1
or something) whilst living in Newtown.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I think the philosophical characteristics of Linux and
the Opensource movements have won. I think the tech we
backed and pimped has become accepted and part of the
industry and it's moved from small player looking for
recognition to one that is accepted. There's still a long
way to go but we are at the end of the beginning. I think
the principles of openness and sharing still need to be
defended. There's still heaps of work to do. Stallman is
still mad, but Stallman still has a point.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I've learnt so much from all of the Linux/Opensource
community over the years and that support has helped me
have confidence in my perspectives over the years. Thank
you all for that. I really appreciate it.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>These days as Jethro says, I'm a little older, got some
kids and have some different priorities in life. Have a
few other things on the go. I'm still a Linux/Unix head.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>But I'll always remember the times at Wellylug where I
felt like I was with my own tribe and what I believed was
right was no longer unusual. That made me happy.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Pleased to hear there's a next stage brewing at WOSSAT.
Maybe I'll bump into some old friends there and make some
new ones.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>jamie</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 27 April 2018 at 23:04, Bruce
Hoult <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:bruce@hoult.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">bruce@hoult.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 4:26 PM, Michael Coleman <span
dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:michaelcoleman500@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">michaelcoleman500@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<div class="gmail_extra">
<div class="gmail_quote">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div>Hard to know why the enthusiasm isn't
manifest like it used to be, possibly?<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>* linux users are too much of a minority<br>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>That's certainly not true. According to
Google, there are over 2 BILLION monthly active
users carrying Linux-based devices in their
pockets.</div>
<div> </div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div>* hard to get talks that aren't kind of
"distro" specific.<br>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Maybe.</div>
<div> </div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div>* maybe linux has matured to the point
that people no longer need help with
hardware and installing? :)</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Definitely. Most people don't know or care
that the device in their pocket is running Linux
-- and so are the vast majority of the servers
it talks to.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I came to wellylug meetings regularly
thirteen years ago when I had a gf who was super
keen getting weird hardware (mostly laptops)
working with Linux, writing KDE documentation
etc. WIFI, audio, and ethernet were particular
bugbears at the time. Audio and ethernet seem to
be solved problems now :-) :-)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Me, I just use Linux every day, on everything
from ARM-based watches and phones (Tizen is
Linux too) and the Raspberry Pi range and
Odroids, to my quad core 1.5 GHz RISC-V "HiFive
Unleashed" board, to my i7 NUC or i9 tower at
home, to servers at SiFive (since last month ..
previously at Samsung Research Institute Moscow
from April 2015 until last month), to a 24/7
t2.nano and occasional m5.{12,24}xlarge or
c5.{9,18}xlarge at AWS when I'm building a lot
of stuff.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<span class="m_-6520217481492219823HOEnZb"><font
color="#888888"><br>
-- <br>
Wellington Linux Users Group Mailing List: <a
href="mailto:wellylug@lists.wellylug.org.nz"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">wellylug@lists.wellylug.org.nz</a><br>
To Leave: <a
href="http://lists.wellylug.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/wellylug"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.wellylug.org.nz/m<wbr>ailman/listinfo/wellylug</a><br>
<br>
</font></span></blockquote>
</div>
<br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
</div>
<br>
<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
<br>
<pre wrap="">
</pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
</body>
</html>