[wlug_org] On fragmentation of the List...

[Mark Foster]

>> The reason people often dont use these lists is that fragmented lists have
>> a smaller audience.  To use the adsl mailing list as an example, many
>> discussions wound up starting on the larger main list and the 'chat'
>> alternative that was provided to reduce the noise count took quite a bit
>> of effort to get people to use.
>>
>> I personally think that a less policed list will be of more value.  On
>> NZLUG we don't have to actively police policies very often - plenty of
>> rope is given. Not many actually succeed in hanging themselves.
>
> yes, but NZOSS is a very different type of organisation to what wellylug
> is.


NZOSS != NZLUG.
And NZLUG is not all that different.

Nor is AuckLUG, and due to their shared history, both lists run basically 
the same AUP.


>> I dont know that WellyLUG is benefiting from its current set of rules as
>> evidenced by recent discussions, and its not like the list volume is so
>> large that very strict enforcement such as is currently the norm is really
>> necessary.
>
> I'm not aware of any "very strict enforcement". Please give me any
> example of where someone has "enforced" a rule?
>
> And none of these rules will be a problem for you if you do as the host
> wishes. And face it - the host is "god". You don't bite the hand that
> feeds you!

I have openly supported the concept of 'doing as the host wishes'.
However the very function of the _org list is surely to facilitate 
discussion of the very policies that the host 'wishes' and that become 
defacto policies through the agreement of members of _this_ list.

You can remove the word 'enforcement' and insert the phrase 'attempted 
policing' if you like.  I'm talking about the fact that a few of WellyLUGs 
vocal participants obviously have very strong feelings relating to policin 
the WellyLUG mailing list 'to the letter of the law' as it were, and that 
this is counter-productive. By extension, perhaps that 'law' needs 
revision into something whereby its enforcement is less counter 
productive?

Mark.