No subject

'spam' and all things which provide for any sort of unsolicited 
advertising. However as cited in my below email, I believe NZLUG have 
struck a fairly efficient moderate position; A low volume of messages 
focussed specifically on the benefit to the LUG, can be considered 
acceptable.

Not suggesting 'advertising' be condoned in any way, except that:

- Drawing attention to new Linux-related technologies (even those that're 
'for sale' may be both of interest to LUG'rs, but also promote discussion 
on both their pros and cons (the output of which is likely to be of 
benefit).  I approach this as more of a 'discussion option' than 
'advertising' and specifically dislike advertising for advertisings sake.

- Linux specific jobs tend to be few and far between; I would be 
supportive of efforts to support our community (i.e. the LUG members) if 
they may benefit by the odd sits-Vacant.  I exclude recruiters and 
recruiting agencies from being permitted for the reason that I would not 
support ads from them specifically (as their focus may well not be the 
interests of the community at last).

I'm NOT in favour of changing the focus of the list - it should remain 
technically focussed and otherwise free of junk - but consider that 
NZLUG's policy has specific allowances and that with these, the actual 
volume would be somewhere in the vicinity of 3-6 posts _per year_... I 
don't feel there's a big risk to, or detraction from, WellyLUG's purpose.

Ewen you have been a friend for years and I don't want you to feel 
unduly pressured; but my personal view is that the current position is 
inflexible, and I do think that my viewpoint has some merit.  I am 
interested to hear what others think and hopeful that a compromise may be 
considered.

I'd be dissapointed if the only way to move forward would be 
to change hosts, as this is a not-insubstantial effort and the LUG has 
been extremely lucky to have your support over the years, and on a 
continuing basis.

Cheers
Mark.


[1] http://lists.wellylug.org.nz/pipermail/wellylug/2009-April/019466.html

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 09:28:08 +1200 (NZST)
From: Mark Foster <blakjak at blakjak.net>
Reply-To: Wellington Linux Users Group <wellylug at lists.wellylug.org.nz>
To: Wellington Linux Users Group <wellylug at lists.wellylug.org.nz>
Subject: Re: [wellylug] [Fwd: Drupal] Job Opportunity in Wellington



On Sun, 16 Aug 2009, Ewen McNeill wrote:

> In message <7cee84140908150340m4fc588c0j8589c07d269640cf at mail.gmail.com>, Andrew Edwards writes:
> Mark Foster <blakjak at blakjak.net> wrote:
>>> I still take exception to that position [of "no advertising"]
>>> [as adverts can be useful]
>>
>> I agree with you, many lugs (worldwide) openly allow this and members
>> have benefited well!!
>
> That's a very slippery slope that you're approaching there.
>
> Wellylug's choice,[0] to date, has been to have a "no advertising"
> policy on its mailing list, and it's been in the monthly reminder
> posting for the last 3-4 years.  Wellylug is of course free to change
> that policy, providing it accepts the consequences of doing so.[1]
>
> Any further discussion about this belongs on the wlug_org.
>

I will welcome it being raised there.
However I should be clear, i'm talking about Linux-specific Job
Advertisements, with a minimum of commercial focus. The wider issue of
advertising is of course, most definately a slippery slope and i'm the
last to encourage it.[1]

I encourage those interested, to subscribe to wlug_org and be involved in
any discussion.

Mark.

[1] As a talking point, NZLUG's AUP: http://www.linux.net.nz/node/view/127


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