THE project (was Re: [wellylug] Last nights meeting)

Daniel Reurich dreurich at paradise.net.nz
Sat Feb 16 23:25:25 NZDT 2002


I'm looking to similar stuff at the moment, and will let you know when I
get something working myself.

On 2002.02.16 23:09 Lorraine Offord & Tony Wills wrote:
> 
> I'm sure it must be a configuration that has been designed, and
> re-designed
> a 1000 times.  But browsing the internet I can't find any easily
> configurable (read menu driven, integrated) mail server program.  For
> those
> who don't know what I'm trying to set up, basically the spec is this:
> 
> A single linux box providing the following services to machines on a
> local
> network:
> 1) dhcp server
> 2) dial on demand internet access
> 3) local network mail server and internet mail router:
> 3a) act as pop3 server for small local network
> 3b) act as pop3 client to clear mail from a single mailbox on an ISP
> 3c) act as smtp server to distribute this mail to appropriate addresses
> on
> local network
> 3d) act as smtp client to send mail via ISP
> 3e) do all connections to ISP via dial on demand connection
> 
> Sounds like a pretty simple spec to me :-), but I've got a steep linux
> learning curve to surmount.
> 
> Currently I have all the above implemented via two boxes, one is a 486
> running coyote linux which does (1) and (2) really well.  The second
> (please forgive me!) is a P133 running win95 and mercury mail server
> (written by the author of pegasus) which does the whole of (3) quite
> elegantly.
> 
> I'm sure someone who knows what they're doing could set this up under
> linux
> in no time flat!  It'll take me a little longer :-(
> 
> Once that's all up and running (with no bugs, and no security holes),
> I'll
> probably want to add:
> 4) virus mail scanning
> 5) banner advert filtering
> 
> Then I'll be happy :-)
> 
> 
> It would help if the whole system had a user friendly front end so that a
> non-computer savvy office manager could do simple management, add remove
> local accounts etc.
> 
> I found a commercial program for Suse Linux called "SuSE Linux eMail
> Server
> III" http://www.suse.de/en/products/suse_business/email_server/
> which might do what I want (including a clicky-de-click interface) but
> they
> want real money - 990Euro = $2047NZD!
> 
> 
> Last year Phil Daintree <p.daintree at xtra.co.nz> had this to say:
> :Sendmail has a bad reputation for requiring a degree to set up and
> maintain.
> :However with the macro commands even I mastered it. Sendmail is the mail
> :transport for a huge chunk of the worlds email and is rock solid. Most
> :distributions come with it and have default configurations for most
> :situations. I use Suse and it sets up sendmail by default. It is worth
> the
> :effort to learn the basics at least. It has all the aliasing forwarding
> you
> :will ever need. The complexity comes because it has that many options
> and
> :facilities. My configuration uses procmail to deliver messages locally
> ie
> :putting the mail in user mail boxes - procmail again is industrial
> strength
> :and can also be used to filter out virus attachments for windows
> clients.
> :Sendmail is just an smtp mail relay ie for receiving and sending mail. I
> use
> :qpopper for the pop3 mail server for windows clients to connect to and
> :retrieve email.
> 
> :Sendmail is the smtp transport, qpopper is the pop3 server and if you
> are
> :fetching the group email from a POP3 box on an isp you will also need
> :fetchmail. This is a small program to handle the fetching of IMAP or
> POP3
> :mail box mail and convert it into an SMTP stream to be handled by
> sendmail.
> 
> So looks like I might just have to tackle sendmail and friends.
> 
> So looks like me (ajwills at paradise.net.nz), phil
> (phil_hayward at paradise.net.nz) and lindsay (?) have a lot of hills to
> climb, if anyone else is interested or wants to act as a guide let us
> know!
> 
> --- Tony
> 
> 
> At 21:51 15-02-02 +1300, phil_hayward at paradise.net.nz wrote:
> >Hi Tony,
> >Being a first time attendee of the WellyLUG also, I agree with a most of
> >your comments. A good collective wealth of knowledge there though and I
> look
> >forward to sharing in it and even perhaps contributing one day when I
> come
> >up to speed.
> >
> >As for taking an interest in your project....not sure that I did much.
> >However Lindsay and and I are currently trying to put together a mail
> server
> >as well and would be quite happy sharing/pooling any knowledge we might
> >gain.....kind of like the blind leading the blind perhaps...:-)
> >I am genuinely interested in your project as I think it is for a good
> cause
> >and am willing to assist in anyway I can.
> ...
> ...
> >Phil
> ...
> 
> 
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