[wellylug] Not everyone pleased with new Mandrake renaming/release schedule
Cliff Pratt
enkidu at cliffp.com
Wed Mar 23 19:24:06 NZST 2005
Brent Wood wrote:
> --- Cliff Pratt <enkidu at cliffp.com> wrote:
>
>>Brent Wood wrote:
>>
>>>My brief dabblwe with Debian left me unimpresssed.
>> >
>>Care to say why? I moved from DeadRat to Debian some time
>>ago, and I'm not likely to change back to an RPM based disto
>>any time before hell freezes over.
>
>
> Ummm, I have had much greater success with both YaST &
> urpmi/drakepkg to install packages than with synaptic
> or apt-get. A couple of years ago this might have been
> different, but that's my experience right now. I think
> RPM is working much better than it used to.
>
That wouldn't be hard.
>
> I can download an RPM, double click & install it, with
> all dependencies generally being picked up fine. So why
> would I move?
>
Perhaps because you've been lucky? Really, really lucky, so
far? <grin> I just realised that I started a "distro wars"
discussion.
I used to be like you, stumbling around in the gloom and
darness of DeadRat, until I came across Debian and saw the
light!
>
> I know another Linux GIS guy who just tried Ubuntu, had all
> sorts of dependency & compilation woes & went back to
> Mandrake 10.1 (yesterday) where everything just works.
>
> Your mileage may differ :-)
>
Yeah!
>
> I'm currently using Ubuntu on an A64 box coz it works
> better on my platform than Mandrake or SuSE. (IMHO the
> bugs are not out of A64 Linux yet). It may be just the
> A64/Ubuntu rather than straight Debian, but the simplest
> way for me to install packages & have then work reliably
> is tarballed source, then make/make install.
>
But that way is waaaay risky! You have to check all
dependencies and relationships by hand!
>
> If you discuss distros with OS GIS developers (summat
> that crops up frequently), they seem to be mostly SuSE,
> Mandrake, Debian & Fedora. A few Ubuntu & Gentoo. I
> don't know any using Red Hat.
>
I don't know why anyone would use SuSe. I'm sorry, but it is
probably the worst distro I've ever tried. Slow as a dead
thing. By far the slowest of the ones that I've tried in
spite of a fair amount of tweaking. I sorry to say that on
the *same box* RedHat relatively *flew*.
Like I said, this is turning into a distro war type
discussion, so I'm not going to respond further, only
because these discussions go nowhere. I'll look forward to
the replies on this if any, though.
Cheers,
Cliff
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