Debian/Ubuntu as cruelty? (was Re: [wellylug] ubuntu help.... & SimplyMEPIS Linux)

[Brent Wood]

> > 
> > It's highly likely that the system is not correctly configured with 
> > repositories correctly set, and the guy will find that he has a system 
> > that he can't get updates for!

Some people need reading lessons. Sigh..... This whole exercise was because he
HAD NO INTERNET ACCESS" Try running any debian package mangler (A common enough
phrase, I do come from a RPM background :-) without net access & see how it
goes.

My apologies to all those on the list who had to suffer through extraneous
emails from people who can't or don't bother reading the questions.

& my thanks again to those who did read it & provided the answers.

> 
> Cliff : Woah chill out man - rpm, deb, whatever they all have their
> merits. i dont see why anyone should be persecuted for making a mistake
> - we all have our methods, as for downloading and installing a .deb by
> hand - it is perfectly standard and fine. all apt does is to automate
> the process. Get off your high horse and help rather than putting the
> guy down. as for "there is no equivalent of rpmfind" what do you call
> this ? http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_packages and this
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
> 
> Brent : you may find this handy (i use it on all Ubuntu systems i
> install - it needs net access however)
> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html, and your issue with the
> A64 Network is an odd one - i have a similar motherboard and my network
> works without an issue, does that board have 2 network ports ? if so you
> need to make sure your plugged into the one that is powered by the
> northbridge and not the other - as all AMD64 distro's support forcedeth
> (the module for nforce ethernet) however they may not support the second
> network without some buggering round
>

Thanks Geraint. There is a bit of high dudgeon around this ain't there! I only
ever encounter it when I suggest anything Debian might be less than the word of
God (or his prophets Deb & Ian :-) For some reason users of other distros don't
seem to take themselves so seriously.

Thanks for the suggestions....

Brent