[wellylug] Installfests (WAS: Very Important: Meeting of 13th Feb 2005)

[Jethro carr]

On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 00:20 -0800, Brent Wood wrote:
> > > As far as the Wellington installfest is concerned, I would be better off
> > > running it as an NZOSS event to get any sort of corporate support. I'm
> > > guessing, but I think I could probably get enough experts to assist with
> > > installs from people I know & local NZOSS members. So is there any point in
> > > involving WellyLUG at all?
> > 
> > Uhm, yes.  WellyLUG provide the manpower, the expertise, the logistics.
> > NZOSS would be providing the 'legal underwriting'. 
> 
> Hmmm... most of the support people I've seen there (but I agree, not all!!) are
> NZOSS members (I know several that are anyway), so WellyLUG manpower &
> expertise may not really be needed, the organisers are NZOSS members, so NZOSS
> can manage the logistics (such that they are).

> 
> So, WellyLUG perhaps is better off not being bothered with such things? I'd be
> interested to know which of the LUG members who have helped with the last
> couple of 'fests are _not_ NZOSS members.

me (Jethro).

I wouldn't _mind_ (I don't like it, but I could accept it) the NZOSS
name on the installfest, but I would also want to be able to advertise
wellylug to people attending. (ie: a short presentation on who/what
wellylug is, and "contact" cards for newbies to get help on problems
after the installfest).






> 
> > Theyve already 
> > specified that theyre happy to do so - and even have a fund for sponsoring 
> > costs incurred up to a point as well.   We've done this successfully in 
> > Auckland... every Installfest there has been a LUG one.
> > (And we secured corporate sponsorship too.)

sounds cool. We could get proper CD's made with professional looking
labels (like in 2004)




> > What does WellyLUG offer? Meetings, Mailing List, forum, website etc etc. 
> > Are they not good reasons?  The Linux Users Group can be exactly that - a 
> > group of Linux Users - it can have identity, branding, and community 
> > involvement. NZOSS have allied, but slightly different, goals.

I would promote wellylug at the installfest as a group to help get
support from. NZOSS has no system to help the newbies get support after
they install it.




> Several LUG members don't like politics or evangelising Linux, which is fine.
> They have said the installfests are virtually evangelising and are not entirely
> comfortable with them. They voiced concern over the "promote Linux" focus of
> the LUG goals as on the web site as being a role more suited to the NZOSS. I'm
> sorry if I've misinterpreted any comments, but I'm pretty sure that's what was
> said/meant. Moving such events to the umbrella of the NZOSS would presumeably
> be supported by these members?

I haven't actually heard this.



> The LUG membership has shown an interest in monthly meetings, a small subset
> are active in IRC, & this list works pretty well. Generally, out of the total
> LUG membership, maybe 6 at best actively help to organise a 'fest and about
> 10-15 turn up to help with installs & presentations on the day. As I said,
> mostly these are also NZOSS members.  None for SF day. 

correct. It's basically the same group, and I think I'm the only non-oss
member. Unfortunately I had something on during SF day... :-(



> I guess the questions are (Have you read this far Jethro, is a poll useful?):

could be - it would only be a rough guide though, the polls don't verify
who's posting what. Shall I?


> How many Luggites want the LUG to be the front group for Wellington Linux & OS
> promotional events.

I believe that it should be so.


> 
> How many are willing to guarantee a serious comittment to helping organise &
> run them?

naturally me.




> How many believe the NZOSS is more appropriate?
> 
> Following that, how many NZOSS members & followers in Wgtn would be concerned
> if such events were fronted by the NZOSS instead of WellyLUG?
> 
> With NZOSS looking to get more in behind such events, it is likely that future
> ones will at least be jointly run, but I'd only be comfortable with that if
> WellyLUG actually contributed something in addition to the NZOSS's role.
>    
> Simply taking the credit without seriously contributing as a group I don't
> think is fair.

if wellylug setup a team (I wouldn't mind organising this closer to any
actual event) that dedicated to supporting newbies in the aftermath,
would this be a serious contribution?


-- 
Jethro Carr <jethro.carr at jedolinux.com>


www.jethrocarr.jedolinux.com

www.jethrocarr.jedolinux.com/index.php?page=cv/cv.php
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