[wellylug] off-topic whining

[Daniel Pittman]

Jethro Carr <jethro.carr at jethrocarr.com> writes:
> On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 15:19 +1000, Daniel Pittman wrote:
>
>> I like to think that, as adults, we can have disparate views on difficult
>> topics without resorting to violent name-calling or other abusive behaviour.
>
> I would like to take a moment to point out that nobody on this list has
> been resorting to name calling, which is always unacceptable in any
> discussion, no matter how strong feelings maybe.

Spiro Harvey, on Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:13:43 +1200, wrote:

    Or if you really must troll, do it via private email, not on the list.

I don't know about you, but I am yet to encounter a situation where calling
someone a troll is anything but pejorative — and I don't think it is just my
being thin-skinned about it.

[...]

>> > That's one of the major complaints I have with linuxchix - I support the
>> > idea of getting women involved in IT and to prevent sexism, but they always
>> > discuss the problem as in all males are deterring women from IT and open
>> > source which actually puts me off their cause since it's implying that as a
>> > male, I'm responsible for it.
>> 
>> I would like to discuss this further, since this is clearly a failure of
>> communication: that is unequivocally *not* the message that I, or the people
>> I know involved in the LinuxChix programs, are trying to send.
>> 
>> If it is the message you are hearing, though, then perhaps talking about it
>> reasonably would let me understand how I was failing in that communication,
>> and to be able to effectively talk to you about the actual message I wanted to
>> send.
>
> I haven't got a lot of free time to go into detail about the problems
> with linuxchix. However, in short:

OK.  Thank you for the feedback; since you are short of time, and the topic is
divisive, I think I will leave it there.  It is always nice to know what
people perceive of the organizations around, though.

[...]

> Anyway, that's my perspective of linuxchix, I'm sure some may disagree, but
> this is how the organisation comes across to me.

obPedant: I would be disappointed if someone tried to dispute that was your
perception of things. ;)

Regards,
        Daniel

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