[wlug_org] $$$ to spend etc (was Individual liability from not being incorporated)

[Wood Brent]

> The currently voting system *works*, but it takes far too long and often
> involves arguments going around in circles.

Otherwise known as debate & democracy. To have the same discussions online that
take 10 minutes at a meeting would speed things up how? Or are you saying a one
week poll is faster than a monthly meeting? At a rough guess, there were over
40 separate comments made last meeting. To get the equivalent debate online
thats 40 extra emails on the org list. Who is gonna read & respond to those
every issue. The current use of the list for considered debate & a
discussion/vote at the meeting seems preferable to me...


So, do you suggest we do away with a show of hands after a discussion as a
voting mechanism?


If it is a trivial question, then online is prob fine (& simpler). But very
often the debate for anything meaningful seems to follow:

discuss core & related issues
agree it's worth proceeding generally
debate & decide on the actual wording (esp for a rule or guideline, etc)
final vote

Frankly, I don't think going through this process online would work as well. 
Shortcutting the process is basically just giving people less chance to have
input. The final vote might be OK online, but a show of hands is a damn sight
easier & quicker, once the discussion is over. See how many non-org members
actually had a say last meeting. Then add them (& a few others) to the org list
for every issue to be decided. I'd prob cause you all to give a sigh of relief
by dropping off the list myself in order to have some sort of real life. A few
minutes once a month to discuss at a meeting is fine, I don't really want that
to be ongoing via emails 24/7 :-) 

(I know the issue of proxies for revised wordings is problematic. But there are
ways around this too.)


Brent