[wlug_org] $$$ to spend etc (was Individual liability from not being incorporated)

[Jamie Baddeley]

this is useful discussion.

I am now starting to think that a policy of "we vote at meetings" may be
useful. This will drive up meeting attendance and increase social
interaction. It also provides a simple way of determining who is a
member. All that would remain is some careful thinking around proxies.
(or we could just take a hardline, and say : make it to the meeting)

Personally speaking I'm tend to be in favour of policies that encourage
social interaction.

Having said this, I also see the value of electronic voting.

I guess it may come down to this:

do we want a large widely spread and loosely coupled lug or a smaller
more tightly knit one? 

jamie

On Wed, 2004-08-11 at 09:58, Wood Brent wrote:
> > The currently voting system *works*, but it takes far too long and often
> > involves arguments going around in circles.
> 
> Otherwise known as debate & democracy. To have the same discussions online that
> take 10 minutes at a meeting would speed things up how? Or are you saying a one
> week poll is faster than a monthly meeting? At a rough guess, there were over
> 40 separate comments made last meeting. To get the equivalent debate online
> thats 40 extra emails on the org list. Who is gonna read & respond to those
> every issue. The current use of the list for considered debate & a
> discussion/vote at the meeting seems preferable to me...
> 
> 
> So, do you suggest we do away with a show of hands after a discussion as a
> voting mechanism?
> 
> 
> If it is a trivial question, then online is prob fine (& simpler). But very
> often the debate for anything meaningful seems to follow:
> 
> discuss core & related issues
> agree it's worth proceeding generally
> debate & decide on the actual wording (esp for a rule or guideline, etc)
> final vote
> 
> Frankly, I don't think going through this process online would work as well. 
> Shortcutting the process is basically just giving people less chance to have
> input. The final vote might be OK online, but a show of hands is a damn sight
> easier & quicker, once the discussion is over. See how many non-org members
> actually had a say last meeting. Then add them (& a few others) to the org list
> for every issue to be decided. I'd prob cause you all to give a sigh of relief
> by dropping off the list myself in order to have some sort of real life. A few
> minutes once a month to discuss at a meeting is fine, I don't really want that
> to be ongoing via emails 24/7 :-) 
> 
> (I know the issue of proxies for revised wordings is problematic. But there are
> ways around this too.)
> 
> 
> Brent
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