[wlug_org] NZLUG discussion

[Mark Foster]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brent Wood" <pcreso@pcreso.com>
To: <wlug_org@lists.wellylug.org.nz>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [wlug_org] NZLUG discussion


>
> --- Craig Box <craig@dubculture.co.nz> wrote:
>
> > > As I said in the rest of my msg, there was stuff from WLUG, but not
> > > NZLUG. To gain general acceptance as an asset from all NZ regional
> > > lugs, I believe NZLUG will need to be more than a site with a few
> > > links to WLUG pages.
> >
> > Some random pages.  What's WLUG specific about them?
> >
>
> The letters "wlug" appear in all the url's, which makes them WLUG pages,
not
> NZLUG. Surely you don't believe a few links to WLUG pages makes a viable
> standalone NZLUG?
>
> > http://www.wlug.org.nz/FreeSwanToCiscoPix
> > http://www.wlug.org.nz/MakefileHowto
> > http://www.wlug.org.nz/IntellectualProperty
> > http://www.wlug.org.nz/Ubuntu
> >
> > or if you prefer more local
> >
> > http://www.wlug.org.nz/NewZealandLinuxMirrors
> > http://www.wlug.org.nz/JetStream
> > http://www.wlug.org.nz/SoftwarePatent
> >
> >
>
> I have not criticised the WLUG site, it is a great resource. I can get
there
> fine from http://www.wlug.org.nz. NZLUG is quite irrelevant for this.
>
> As I said before, IMHO, if NZLUG is to be of any use & have it's own
identity,
> it will need to be more that a duplicate of bits of WLUG (or any other
regional
> LUG), and right now it seems little more than that.
>
> You seem to claim that a viable NZLUG simply comprises links to WLUG
pages. You
> have not offered any opinions suggesting that any more is required, just
> pointed out more links to WLUG content to justify having the NZLUG.
>
> I feel it needs to be more than that to be a viable entity in it's own
right,
> and that a few links to relevant pages at pretty much one site is
therefore
> only a start. I haven't said it is a bad start, just that I believe it
needs to
> be more than that. With some suggestions as to what the more might be....
>
> I think that NZLUG could become a viable and useful LUG, but it will need
to
> enhance what regional LUG's do, not just duplicate or link to it to really
have
> any value.
>
>
> Cheers
>
>    Brent
>
>
> NB: & my subscription to the nzlug-discuss list has been approved! So I'll
try
> to browse some archives so I'm not spouting stuff that's been covered
there
> before... (I had an email saying they would try to get the archives up for
> viewing)
>

Clarifications.

1) nzlug-discuss != NZLUG.  nzlug-discuss is the organisation group where
we're discussing the nitty gritty of NZLUG's future. Its not the same as
NZLUG proper. Further no 'decisions' are being made, because any ideas that
come off that list will go to nzlug@ for discussion first anyway.

2) you can replace www.wlug.org.nz with wiki.linux.net.nz and the URL's go
to the same place.  So the move therefore, is from an NZLUG point of view,
to use wiki.linux.net.nz/Ubuntu.

WLUG'rs can continue to use their domain.  The rest of us can use
wiki.linux.net.nz and get an NZLUG branded version of the same stuff.

I personally would love to see WLUG start to reduce the use of the
www.wlug.org.nz reference to their wiki and use wiki.linux.net.nz - but we
can't enforce that. Likewise it could be called 'credit for having gotten a
decent, informative, working system online, and then giving the world access
to it'.

Mark.