[wlug_org] Re: [nzlug-discuss] Wgtn discussion result(s)

Mark Foster wlug_org@lists.wellylug.org.nz
Thu, 21 Jul 2005 11:24:21 +1200 (NZST)


> I think Brent & Ewen have summed up the meeting well.
>
> At 08:54 21/07/2005, Brent wrote:
>>...
>>NZLUG is primarily a mailing list based community of individuals with a
>> common
>>interest in Linux, as are most LUG's.
> ...
>>  NZLUG ... effectively just
>>another LUG it is not any sort of umbrella or support organisation for
>>regional
>>LUG's, in fact it could be considered competition. (Which is good for
>>individuals, but too many LUG's leads to what we felt would be
>> undesirable
>>fragmentation). Getting a serious buy in from regional LUG's to jump in
>> and
>>support NZLUG as "the national Linux organisation" therefore seemed
>>unlikely to
>>us.
>
> My thoughts on NZLUG's wish for NZLUG mailing list to be adopted as a
> truly
> national linux mailing list:
> 1) For regions where there is already an active local mailing list it is
> unlikely that many people are going to migrate from a community of people
> they know to NZLUG - if they can't get the info they want from the local
> list there are thousands of other lists and websites to go to, what is the
> attraction of NZLUG?  So from a pragmatic point of view NZLUG is only
> slowly going to attract subscribers from regions with strong local
> support.
> 2) Equally those currently on NZLUG have little reason to move to a
> regional group list (eg AuckLUG)
>
> therefore the subscriber catchment of NZLUG mailing list is going to
> remain
> much as it is.


Agree with the general point, although I dont think that this is enough to
stop us from trying.
When individuals see the value of NZLUG they may change their mind,
especially if we do manage to get the desired snowball effect.


>>Having just solved all our problems, we cast around for something else we
>>could
>>apply our collective genius to. Mark said discussions about a logo were
>>ongoing, and we came up with the idea of something like a coat of arms
>> (NOT a
>>formally registered heraldic coat of arms) combining Tux & a kiwi, two
>>flightless birds, which we thought could be a neat way to combine the
>>universal
>>symbols for Linux & NZ.
>
> Tux and a Kiwi, why didn't I think of that ?   Mark endearingly described
> some fools efforts at a wiki logo as "a couple of balls with sticks", Ewen
> looked at me and I mumbled something about I thought the idea was to come
> up with logo concepts rather than perfect works of art ;-)
>
> Tony.
> http://list.afraid.org/wiki-tux-transparent1.png
> http://list.afraid.org/wiki-tux-transparent2.png

the second one looks far more realistic, IMHO. Its the first one that my
(obviously very non PC) comment was aimed at.
The Coat of Arms idea is good, imho, but i'm not an artist...