[wlug_org] NZLUG discussion

[Craig Box]

> As I said in the rest of my msg, there was stuff from WLUG, but not
> NZLUG. To gain general acceptance as an asset from all NZ regional
> lugs, I believe NZLUG will need to be more than a site with a few
> links to WLUG pages.

Some random pages.  What's WLUG specific about them?

http://www.wlug.org.nz/FreeSwanToCiscoPix
http://www.wlug.org.nz/MakefileHowto
http://www.wlug.org.nz/IntellectualProperty
http://www.wlug.org.nz/Ubuntu

or if you prefer more local

http://www.wlug.org.nz/NewZealandLinuxMirrors
http://www.wlug.org.nz/JetStream
http://www.wlug.org.nz/SoftwarePatent

> For the WLUG, I agree completely. Take the WLUG content away from
> NZLUG, and I repeat, NZLUG looks like something in it's infancy,
> little more than a spaceholder for WLUG.

Sure.  You can wait three years for NZLUG's wiki to get the same number of 
pages that WLUG's has.  You can take all our content wholesale (as you will 
be allowed to do when our Creative Commons relicensing is complete) and put 
it on a NZLUG wiki, changing names where appropriate, and just make us 
unhappy that you did.  Or you can put up a view port into a great resource 
of NZ Linux content, with some WLUG specific content sure, and either add 
NZLUG or other group specific content, or change the pages in question to be 
a bit more neutral if appropriate.

Or if you prefer, you can consider the idea a failure and we can go back to 
what we had before.  Wikipedia works well because there is one central point 
to edit and lots of good information ends up there.  If we all have a wiki 
with a tiny amount of content, then it makes it hard to remember which bit 
was where, etc.  Maybe one day we'll find a way to get our content into a 
World Linux Wiki.  Hell, I'd love a Windows Wiki for some of the stuff I do 
at work.  I don't mind personally - I'm not trying to force the country to 
buckle at the will of the WLUG.  I remember having to delete a whole heap of 
crap pages when some of the #nzlinux people found the wiki a couple of years 
ago.  Maybe it's best if we're psuedonymous :)

> Sweet, but are we talking about WLUG or NZLUG. I for one don't see
> them as synonymous, but all your rebuttals to my suggestions for
> NZLUG simply say, "hey, but WLUG already has these." So if WLUG
> already does that, what is the role you see for NZLUG? Just paste a
> NZLUG facade over WLUG & say it's done?

The nzlug-discuss list has my opinion in full technicolour.  One of the 
potential goals is "as a New Zealand Linux Resource", and we already had 
what we perceieve to be a great NZ-user edited New Zealand Linux Resource.

> As I also pointed out, I was gonna do just that when my subscription
> gets approved..... but there is also a place for wellylug members to
> discuss the relevance of NZLUG among themselves....

Absolutely.

Craig